Absolutely. דְּמֵ֥י טָֽהֳרָֽה And also, let's remember that holy things were purified. Lepers were also purified. I imagine they too needed a time for recovery and rest. Another example: for servicemen on their way home from WWII, they sailed back on a ship and many, if not all servicemen, have said how much they needed this time of rest and really, "purification." They needed to talk with one another. They couldn't just go straight back to civilian life. This was one of the horrors of the Viet Nam War; the men and women went straight back to America on planes. This was too much for many of them. Their minds, hearts and souls were torn by this practice. As for kippur or atonement, I think that after suffering, including very much when women are pregnant--(we women face death, it is a "liminal" state, our souls can be very much battered, we may well turn away in some ways from God during pregnancy)-- anyhow, in any kind of struggle or suffering, men and women get tough and and we get a little stoney hearted. God wants reconciliation, for us to turn back to him. Kippur כָּפַר is not so much about God reconciling himself to us because "we're gross," instead it's about God reconciling us (who have turned away or gone into sorrow or toughness, stoney-heartedness or just darkness) to himself. He woos us. He consoles us, this is why כָּפַר is needed.
Real interestin' stuff--yup, I was told same same (in Reform), that it meant "women were unclean" an' that orthodox women were treated as if they "needed a bath!" (lol, which was sort'a the case...but ritual aside, mikva didn't mean makin' pure, it meant making yerself not "gross" -- similar feminist perspective) BUT this more direct readin' really opens a new winda far less oppressive... Yes, women need that break after childbirth, time ta rest & not ta have ta go to "soivices" (which would otherwise mean a lotta sittin' on a sore/achy "bottom!")-- An' how totally logical, the idea that havin' a break durin'/after our crampy-tender periods can work better for a marriage an' similarly relive us laydeez of havin' ta make egg-scuses! (pun intended!) Just as I think kashrut is often ta spare us from disease (at the time), perhaps this tradition is too... fer the health (mental an' physical) of the wife & the couple...kinda sneaky in a good way (make it a law so the husbands cannot make...requests lol)
OK but then there's one thang I never undestood 'cept as insultin'--the dreaded hole in the sheet! Now I have an orthodox mama pal that said "they never did that" but is that in Torah? It seems jus'....horrible (I hope g-d has a great excuse fer that one lol)
Could 'atonement upon' her constitute a sort of blessing?
Or, priestly recognition/acknowledgment of her obtaining the desired pure state or status? I am picturing a sort of 'graduation' ceremony where successful completion of a course is recognized and a degree conferred.
Do agree with you that the priest's 'atonement upon' has a much different feeling than the priest's 'atonement for' her.
What's interesting about this and what I hadn't considered before, is that Yahweh is helping delay another pregnancy quickly after the birth. It helps space children out longer than 9 months, and I'm sure we all know of instances that's happened. It's better for mother and child to have more than 9 mos. before next arrival.
Thank You Naomi!! Wish I knew when this is live. Been missing your deep & insightful readings and explanations! Love that you'll be reading a Chapter every day this week!! Until tomorrow. Enjoy your evening.
I am a Christian but love the studies in the "Old Testament" & listening to the Hebrew reading of the Torah. It brings such depth of understanding to our faith and our Jewish roots. Thank you so much 🤗❤️
I was taught that blood in these cases did not mean it was impure but that it is the life of a being so it belongs to God and is given back to God. So it is a purification and acknowledgement of life which is God's. Remember the priests were sprinkling blood around the tabernacle and the ark and even on the priests themselves. The atonement is acknowledging the unity of man with God in their coming together with the purity of the blood.
Anyone who is interested yet hasn't read The Red Tent, a novel by Anita Diamant should! Find it in the library or on a used book shelf likeThriftBooks.com for cheap as it's from 1997!
This is part of the patriarchy. Women are impure when menstruating or after childbirth but Jesus’ blood is sacred. Men’s blood is sacred Patriarchy patriarchy patriarchy Religion is patriarchy. Women are the deliverers of life. Women are goddesses. Men are instruments of DNA and little more…. We need WAY fewer men….
The patriarchal society NEEDS to be doomed. Women are the bearers, givers , and nurturers of life and love. Men are meant to provide the seed for the children women wish to bear (men are DNA transmitters and only high quality men are chosen) and to support women in any way the women request. This is the natural way. Mother Earth, Mother Nature, the Divine Feminine….
Why does it take so long to post the videos? Leviticus 18 was live yesterday, I'm sorry but that was not a good reading! You are grasping at straws to fit a narrative, your own misguided ideas, to please a specific group, and misinterpreting scripture in the process. This is exactly what we are warned against.
You are awesome. I like this take. Beautiful. I really like it and never would have considered it if you hadn't presented it. Which in itself carries a lot of weight. Gob Bless You and your family. Den
Absolutely. דְּמֵ֥י טָֽהֳרָֽה And also, let's remember that holy things were purified. Lepers were also purified. I imagine they too needed a time for recovery and rest. Another example: for servicemen on their way home from WWII, they sailed back on a ship and many, if not all servicemen, have said how much they needed this time of rest and really, "purification." They needed to talk with one another. They couldn't just go straight back to civilian life. This was one of the horrors of the Viet Nam War; the men and women went straight back to America on planes. This was too much for many of them. Their minds, hearts and souls were torn by this practice. As for kippur or atonement, I think that after suffering, including very much when women are pregnant--(we women face death, it is a "liminal" state, our souls can be very much battered, we may well turn away in some ways from God during pregnancy)-- anyhow, in any kind of struggle or suffering, men and women get tough and and we get a little stoney hearted. God wants reconciliation, for us to turn back to him. Kippur כָּפַר is not so much about God reconciling himself to us because "we're gross," instead it's about God reconciling us (who have turned away or gone into sorrow or toughness, stoney-heartedness or just darkness) to himself. He woos us. He consoles us, this is why כָּפַר is needed.
Hi Naomi. I do not see any posts past this one Leviticus 12. I tried Rumble and Daily Clout and I don't see anything updated past Leviticus. Thanks!
Real interestin' stuff--yup, I was told same same (in Reform), that it meant "women were unclean" an' that orthodox women were treated as if they "needed a bath!" (lol, which was sort'a the case...but ritual aside, mikva didn't mean makin' pure, it meant making yerself not "gross" -- similar feminist perspective) BUT this more direct readin' really opens a new winda far less oppressive... Yes, women need that break after childbirth, time ta rest & not ta have ta go to "soivices" (which would otherwise mean a lotta sittin' on a sore/achy "bottom!")-- An' how totally logical, the idea that havin' a break durin'/after our crampy-tender periods can work better for a marriage an' similarly relive us laydeez of havin' ta make egg-scuses! (pun intended!) Just as I think kashrut is often ta spare us from disease (at the time), perhaps this tradition is too... fer the health (mental an' physical) of the wife & the couple...kinda sneaky in a good way (make it a law so the husbands cannot make...requests lol)
OK but then there's one thang I never undestood 'cept as insultin'--the dreaded hole in the sheet! Now I have an orthodox mama pal that said "they never did that" but is that in Torah? It seems jus'....horrible (I hope g-d has a great excuse fer that one lol)
Could 'atonement upon' her constitute a sort of blessing?
Or, priestly recognition/acknowledgment of her obtaining the desired pure state or status? I am picturing a sort of 'graduation' ceremony where successful completion of a course is recognized and a degree conferred.
Do agree with you that the priest's 'atonement upon' has a much different feeling than the priest's 'atonement for' her.
What's interesting about this and what I hadn't considered before, is that Yahweh is helping delay another pregnancy quickly after the birth. It helps space children out longer than 9 months, and I'm sure we all know of instances that's happened. It's better for mother and child to have more than 9 mos. before next arrival.
You don't understand why childbirth is unclean? Don't you have any children? Childbirth is messy, impressively messy.
Do have children. All babies are brats and they are worth it a million times over.
Thank You Naomi!! Wish I knew when this is live. Been missing your deep & insightful readings and explanations! Love that you'll be reading a Chapter every day this week!! Until tomorrow. Enjoy your evening.
I am a Christian but love the studies in the "Old Testament" & listening to the Hebrew reading of the Torah. It brings such depth of understanding to our faith and our Jewish roots. Thank you so much 🤗❤️
I was taught that blood in these cases did not mean it was impure but that it is the life of a being so it belongs to God and is given back to God. So it is a purification and acknowledgement of life which is God's. Remember the priests were sprinkling blood around the tabernacle and the ark and even on the priests themselves. The atonement is acknowledging the unity of man with God in their coming together with the purity of the blood.
Only GOD can do that with language
Anyone who is interested yet hasn't read The Red Tent, a novel by Anita Diamant should! Find it in the library or on a used book shelf likeThriftBooks.com for cheap as it's from 1997!
This is part of the patriarchy. Women are impure when menstruating or after childbirth but Jesus’ blood is sacred. Men’s blood is sacred Patriarchy patriarchy patriarchy Religion is patriarchy. Women are the deliverers of life. Women are goddesses. Men are instruments of DNA and little more…. We need WAY fewer men….
Poor Cathy, you are so deluded. Pls see my comment about why God protects women.
Wake up!
And this is why society is doomed. Your way of thinking is no better than the men who ran the world in the old days.
The patriarchal society NEEDS to be doomed. Women are the bearers, givers , and nurturers of life and love. Men are meant to provide the seed for the children women wish to bear (men are DNA transmitters and only high quality men are chosen) and to support women in any way the women request. This is the natural way. Mother Earth, Mother Nature, the Divine Feminine….
See my new comment to help understand why God protects women and children!
Pamela J
Why does it take so long to post the videos? Leviticus 18 was live yesterday, I'm sorry but that was not a good reading! You are grasping at straws to fit a narrative, your own misguided ideas, to please a specific group, and misinterpreting scripture in the process. This is exactly what we are warned against.
You are awesome. I like this take. Beautiful. I really like it and never would have considered it if you hadn't presented it. Which in itself carries a lot of weight. Gob Bless You and your family. Den