YES Naomi you can’t fully comprehend the New Testament without the old! Revelation is progressive! Christ validated ALL of God’s messengers before him! Pray and meditate! Keep seeking! God will guide you! Consider reading the book: He Cometh in The Clouds
I listened to Jonathon’s book, The Harbinger. The second one is coming in as thieves in the night because of the ACORN king’s revenge on what he perceives America, the great Satan doing to exploit natural resources and protecting the little Satan. This he learned as a student in a Jakarta madrasa prior to his Marxist father leaving his mother and before Frank Marshal Davis taking over in Hawaii. Context means something to me…as does what’s come over the border inside CAIR’s Trojan Horse.
It was so good to hear Jonathan speak so clearly about the relationship with Jews and Christians. I’m so happy for other Jews to know that we Christians have a special love for them, and a respect for their traditions too. Becoming a Christian does not take away from yourself as a Jew. Gods bless him. God bless the Jews.
I would encourage all to listen to Hebrew scholar Dr Margaret Barker's profound explication of Creation in the scriptures, in support of what I detail below.
Margaret Barker recounts Genesis as describing how God made the heavens and the earth in the pattern of the Temple - the heavens representing the Holy of Holies where God dwells in the unseen realm, and the curtain delineating the boundary with earth, the concrete, visible reality.
Humanity was created to be the place where heaven and earth meet, (we were to be fractals of the pattern of creation or mini- temples if you like). Adam was designated the role of High Priest over the created order but failed to fulfill that role as we know.
Israel was given a unique calling through Abraham to be a blessing to all nations, part of which undoubtebly included that wherever she lived she would inhabit that space in a way that brought blessing to her neighbours. We see in scripture that Israel too, turned away from her calling, something that Pastor Cahn does not appear to mention.
When Israel abandoned her first love and went after other gods, Yaweh named her a whore and in turn Yaweh's Temple was violated and destroyed.
When Jesus came to the Jewish people, he instantiated the Temple once more as the second Adam and this is why he said 'Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up again'. This is also why the good news of believers in Jesus is 'the Kingdom of God is within' or even 'Jesus is in you, even if you do not comprehend it', and 'whoever puts his trust in me (Jesus), rivers of living water will flow from his innermost being'. Sin is violating the divine fountain within, bricking up the waters of life so they are unable to flow.
The Jewish leadership put Jesus to death because he exposed them and because he represented a genuine threat to their collusion with Rome and their reinterpretation of the scriptures to suit their vested interests.
Jesus foresaw the destruction of the rebuilt Temple in AD 70 as judgment on Israel's rulers aligning themselves with Empire, and wept.
Today, Israel's leadership has pimped itself to the Anglo- American Empire, buying favours, support and assent to atrocities beyond imagining through AIPAC funding of political and academic leaders and institutions. I do not see any hatred of the Jewish people, only horror of what Israelies continue to perpetrate on Palestinian and muslim peoples including unspeakable torture of prisoners. I do not believe that Israel has enemies, but that it has created them by intentionally wreaking havoc through bombing and other aggressive actions in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Iran. Restraint is one directional and none is coming from Israel.
If political events in the world seem to circle around maybe its because the world is being given a chance to do better this time!
I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass, and what I have learned in RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults), is that the Gregorian Chants, codified by St. Gregory the Great, are based on the same musical tones that were used in the synagogues in Jesus’ time. The liturgy also is based on the readings from the Psalms and other passages, which are chanted or sung, like it was in the synagogues. This is because the earliest Christians were Jews, and they perpetuated those traditions. I’m told that it is more similar than what is now chanted or sung in modern synagogues, because all that changed after the Diaspora. So the Traditional Latin Mass is closely tied with Judaism. Unfortunately, that has been lost in Protestant denominations and also the Novus Ordo Catholic Mass. With resurgence of evil forces in the world today, I’m not surprised that the Latin Mass has come under attack by the current Pope, and that traditional Catholics who attend it were flagged by the FBI. No offense to Catholics who attend the Novus Ordo mass or Protestants. You would have to experience it for yourselves to see the difference.
I caught that eye roll and smirk as well between Naomi and Rabbi Cahn…a shared private understanding left me with uncomfortable afterthoughts. I do not accept Gentiles are grafted to Israel. anymore than Rabbi Cahn is grafted less than as a Jew through his acceptance of Jesus as his Messiah (although I found out I am 16% Ashkenazi for what is that worth? ) Jesus was not a Christian but a Jewish Messiah sent with a new covenant . As a Gentile, Jesus being a Jewish Messiah was not a concern , His Light and Holy Divinity summoned me.
The eye roll and smirk at 51:51 says a lot. The LORDS hand is on you... you are twice chosen, John 3:5.
Bible prophecy is fun, but there is work to do gathering the CREATORS harvest of souls. You are playing a role in that.
In my late teens in the late 70's I came across Carla Carlson and Hal Lindsey's book and movie The Late Great Planet Earth. A similar discussion, but using current events of those days.
Thank you Dr. Wolf for this interview with Pastor/Rabbi Cahn. I so appreciate your questions, openness and bravery, especially in these times.
I am a Christian, and have followed Jesus for 60 years. I love G-d, the Jewish people and Israel and am so thankful to have been grafted into the “olive tree”. I am one of 8 children in my family. In 1962, at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis my mother was standing at the clothesline hanging the never ending baskets of laundry and she cried out to G-d, “if you are real, help me! I am terrified! How will I keep these 6 (at the time) children safe?”
The next day a woman invited her to Bible Study Fellowship. In studying the Bible with other women, my mom came to believe in Jesus and His death and resurrection as the propitiation for her sin and the gift of eternal life with Him. My father and all of my family eventually became Christians.
G-d moves in this world He created and He moves in individual hearts and lives. Keep seeking! Blessings!
Thank you dear Naomi for sharing such a truly edifying and touching conversation.
You are so loved and appreciated! 🌹
My thoughts of the Mystery of the
“The Holy Trinity”afterward were of…
“In my house there are many Mansions”
John 14 ►
Douay-Rheims Bible
Jesus Comforts the Disciples
1Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God: believe also in me. 2In my Father's house there are many mansions. If not, I would have told you: because I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I shall go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself: that where I am, you also may be. 4And whither I go you know: and the way you know.
The Way, the Truth, and the Life
5Thomas saith to him: Lord, we know not whither thou goest. And how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.
7If you had known me, you would without doubt have known my Father also: and from henceforth you shall know him. And you have seen him.
8Philip saith to him: Lord, show us the Father; and it is enough for us. 9Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you and have you not known me? Philip, he that seeth me seeth the Father also. How sayest thou: Show us the Father? 10Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I speak to you, I speak not of myself. But the Father who abideth in me, he doth the works. 11Believe you not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? 12Otherwise believe for the very works' sake. Amen, amen, I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do, he also shall do: and greater than these shall he do. 13Because I go to the Father: and whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, that will I do: that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If you shall ask me any thing in my name, that I will do.
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
(Joel 2:28-32; John 16:5-16; Acts 2:1-13; Acts 10:44-48; Acts 19:1-7)
15If you love me, keep my commandments.
16And I will ask the Father: and he shall give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you for ever: 17The spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, nor knoweth him. But you shall know him; because he shall abide with you and shall be in you.
18I will not leave you orphans: I will come to you. 19Yet a little while and the world seeth me no more. But you see me: because I live, and you shall live. 20In that day you shall know that I am in my Father: and you in me, and I in you. 21He that hath my commandments and keepeth them; he it is that loveth me. And he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father: and I will love him and will manifest myself to him. 22Judas saith to him, not the Iscariot: Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself to us, and not to the world? 23Jesus answered and said to him: If any one love me, he will keep my word. And my Father will love him and we will come to him and will make our abode with him. 24And the word which you have heard is not mine; but the Father's who sent me.
25These things have I spoken to you, abiding with you. 26But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.
I believe that Paul went to the nations because he understood that not only would he draw the nations to Yeshua, but he would find the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Jews for the most part ( with exceptions) are 2 1/2 tribes and the rest were scattered in the Assyrian exile and scattered in the nations. Yeshua said "the sheep would hear his voice" . In Ezekiel 37 15-28 it says the two branches will become one in the hand of a Davidic King. Paul was not anti Torah. That's a very big misunderstanding of his words. He was just trying to tell the non-Israelites, or the non-Jews that they did not need to circumcise to be included in the covenant. Israel became the "melo-hagoyim" . In Romans 11 it says that Paul did not want us to be ignorant of the mystery but a partial hardening has come to Israel until the until the fullnesss of the nations comes in thus all Israel will be saved. Melo Hagoyim is the same as the pleroo ethnos. The great mystery is that we will live in shalom under King Yeshua. I met a rabbi in Israel who said to me, "he's coming back there" pointing to Mount of Olives. Zechariah 14. I said to him, "They will look upon him who they pierced and weep as one weeps for an only begotten Son" Zechariah 12:10. He said "exactly" There are secret believing Jews in Jerusalem in one yeshiva. . There is much more but I will leave it hear for now. Thanks for this video!
Thank you so much for this interview with Rabbi/Pastor Cahn. The questions you asked were very insightful. As I listen to you and read your beautifully crafted essays, your struggle reconciling your Judaism with Yeshua also being God has been interesting (I wish I had a better word than interesting) to observe. My heart keeps seeing that you are so close to understanding the connections and I pray for you regularly. I am a Christian who has always had a strong affinity for Israel and the Jewish people and culture. From a very young age I have been drawn to books that teach me more about this. After listening to this interview, I believe the reason is that this is truly a soul connection. God grafted us Gentiles into His Jewish family and through that grafting, we are one. How amazing and beautiful is that?!
Thank you for all the tireless work you do on so many fronts. Your readings of the Old Testament are wonderful. I especially enjoy hearing the accurate pronunciations of persons and places.
YES Naomi you can’t fully comprehend the New Testament without the old! Revelation is progressive! Christ validated ALL of God’s messengers before him! Pray and meditate! Keep seeking! God will guide you! Consider reading the book: He Cometh in The Clouds
I listened to Jonathon’s book, The Harbinger. The second one is coming in as thieves in the night because of the ACORN king’s revenge on what he perceives America, the great Satan doing to exploit natural resources and protecting the little Satan. This he learned as a student in a Jakarta madrasa prior to his Marxist father leaving his mother and before Frank Marshal Davis taking over in Hawaii. Context means something to me…as does what’s come over the border inside CAIR’s Trojan Horse.
Amazing message uniting two major religions. Thank you
It was so good to hear Jonathan speak so clearly about the relationship with Jews and Christians. I’m so happy for other Jews to know that we Christians have a special love for them, and a respect for their traditions too. Becoming a Christian does not take away from yourself as a Jew. Gods bless him. God bless the Jews.
I would encourage all to listen to Hebrew scholar Dr Margaret Barker's profound explication of Creation in the scriptures, in support of what I detail below.
Margaret Barker recounts Genesis as describing how God made the heavens and the earth in the pattern of the Temple - the heavens representing the Holy of Holies where God dwells in the unseen realm, and the curtain delineating the boundary with earth, the concrete, visible reality.
Humanity was created to be the place where heaven and earth meet, (we were to be fractals of the pattern of creation or mini- temples if you like). Adam was designated the role of High Priest over the created order but failed to fulfill that role as we know.
Israel was given a unique calling through Abraham to be a blessing to all nations, part of which undoubtebly included that wherever she lived she would inhabit that space in a way that brought blessing to her neighbours. We see in scripture that Israel too, turned away from her calling, something that Pastor Cahn does not appear to mention.
When Israel abandoned her first love and went after other gods, Yaweh named her a whore and in turn Yaweh's Temple was violated and destroyed.
When Jesus came to the Jewish people, he instantiated the Temple once more as the second Adam and this is why he said 'Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up again'. This is also why the good news of believers in Jesus is 'the Kingdom of God is within' or even 'Jesus is in you, even if you do not comprehend it', and 'whoever puts his trust in me (Jesus), rivers of living water will flow from his innermost being'. Sin is violating the divine fountain within, bricking up the waters of life so they are unable to flow.
The Jewish leadership put Jesus to death because he exposed them and because he represented a genuine threat to their collusion with Rome and their reinterpretation of the scriptures to suit their vested interests.
Jesus foresaw the destruction of the rebuilt Temple in AD 70 as judgment on Israel's rulers aligning themselves with Empire, and wept.
Today, Israel's leadership has pimped itself to the Anglo- American Empire, buying favours, support and assent to atrocities beyond imagining through AIPAC funding of political and academic leaders and institutions. I do not see any hatred of the Jewish people, only horror of what Israelies continue to perpetrate on Palestinian and muslim peoples including unspeakable torture of prisoners. I do not believe that Israel has enemies, but that it has created them by intentionally wreaking havoc through bombing and other aggressive actions in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Iran. Restraint is one directional and none is coming from Israel.
If political events in the world seem to circle around maybe its because the world is being given a chance to do better this time!
yes.
I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass, and what I have learned in RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults), is that the Gregorian Chants, codified by St. Gregory the Great, are based on the same musical tones that were used in the synagogues in Jesus’ time. The liturgy also is based on the readings from the Psalms and other passages, which are chanted or sung, like it was in the synagogues. This is because the earliest Christians were Jews, and they perpetuated those traditions. I’m told that it is more similar than what is now chanted or sung in modern synagogues, because all that changed after the Diaspora. So the Traditional Latin Mass is closely tied with Judaism. Unfortunately, that has been lost in Protestant denominations and also the Novus Ordo Catholic Mass. With resurgence of evil forces in the world today, I’m not surprised that the Latin Mass has come under attack by the current Pope, and that traditional Catholics who attend it were flagged by the FBI. No offense to Catholics who attend the Novus Ordo mass or Protestants. You would have to experience it for yourselves to see the difference.
I caught that eye roll and smirk as well between Naomi and Rabbi Cahn…a shared private understanding left me with uncomfortable afterthoughts. I do not accept Gentiles are grafted to Israel. anymore than Rabbi Cahn is grafted less than as a Jew through his acceptance of Jesus as his Messiah (although I found out I am 16% Ashkenazi for what is that worth? ) Jesus was not a Christian but a Jewish Messiah sent with a new covenant . As a Gentile, Jesus being a Jewish Messiah was not a concern , His Light and Holy Divinity summoned me.
The eye roll and smirk at 51:51 says a lot. The LORDS hand is on you... you are twice chosen, John 3:5.
Bible prophecy is fun, but there is work to do gathering the CREATORS harvest of souls. You are playing a role in that.
In my late teens in the late 70's I came across Carla Carlson and Hal Lindsey's book and movie The Late Great Planet Earth. A similar discussion, but using current events of those days.
J.
This was a fabulous interview. I’ve always loved Jonathan Cahn and just ordered his book! ❤️
Thank you Dr. Wolf for this interview with Pastor/Rabbi Cahn. I so appreciate your questions, openness and bravery, especially in these times.
I am a Christian, and have followed Jesus for 60 years. I love G-d, the Jewish people and Israel and am so thankful to have been grafted into the “olive tree”. I am one of 8 children in my family. In 1962, at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis my mother was standing at the clothesline hanging the never ending baskets of laundry and she cried out to G-d, “if you are real, help me! I am terrified! How will I keep these 6 (at the time) children safe?”
The next day a woman invited her to Bible Study Fellowship. In studying the Bible with other women, my mom came to believe in Jesus and His death and resurrection as the propitiation for her sin and the gift of eternal life with Him. My father and all of my family eventually became Christians.
G-d moves in this world He created and He moves in individual hearts and lives. Keep seeking! Blessings!
Thank you dear Naomi for sharing such a truly edifying and touching conversation.
You are so loved and appreciated! 🌹
My thoughts of the Mystery of the
“The Holy Trinity”afterward were of…
“In my house there are many Mansions”
John 14 ►
Douay-Rheims Bible
Jesus Comforts the Disciples
1Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God: believe also in me. 2In my Father's house there are many mansions. If not, I would have told you: because I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I shall go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself: that where I am, you also may be. 4And whither I go you know: and the way you know.
The Way, the Truth, and the Life
5Thomas saith to him: Lord, we know not whither thou goest. And how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.
7If you had known me, you would without doubt have known my Father also: and from henceforth you shall know him. And you have seen him.
8Philip saith to him: Lord, show us the Father; and it is enough for us. 9Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you and have you not known me? Philip, he that seeth me seeth the Father also. How sayest thou: Show us the Father? 10Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I speak to you, I speak not of myself. But the Father who abideth in me, he doth the works. 11Believe you not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? 12Otherwise believe for the very works' sake. Amen, amen, I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do, he also shall do: and greater than these shall he do. 13Because I go to the Father: and whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, that will I do: that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If you shall ask me any thing in my name, that I will do.
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
(Joel 2:28-32; John 16:5-16; Acts 2:1-13; Acts 10:44-48; Acts 19:1-7)
15If you love me, keep my commandments.
16And I will ask the Father: and he shall give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you for ever: 17The spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, nor knoweth him. But you shall know him; because he shall abide with you and shall be in you.
18I will not leave you orphans: I will come to you. 19Yet a little while and the world seeth me no more. But you see me: because I live, and you shall live. 20In that day you shall know that I am in my Father: and you in me, and I in you. 21He that hath my commandments and keepeth them; he it is that loveth me. And he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father: and I will love him and will manifest myself to him. 22Judas saith to him, not the Iscariot: Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself to us, and not to the world? 23Jesus answered and said to him: If any one love me, he will keep my word. And my Father will love him and we will come to him and will make our abode with him. 24And the word which you have heard is not mine; but the Father's who sent me.
25These things have I spoken to you, abiding with you. 26But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.
Naomi,
I believe that Paul went to the nations because he understood that not only would he draw the nations to Yeshua, but he would find the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Jews for the most part ( with exceptions) are 2 1/2 tribes and the rest were scattered in the Assyrian exile and scattered in the nations. Yeshua said "the sheep would hear his voice" . In Ezekiel 37 15-28 it says the two branches will become one in the hand of a Davidic King. Paul was not anti Torah. That's a very big misunderstanding of his words. He was just trying to tell the non-Israelites, or the non-Jews that they did not need to circumcise to be included in the covenant. Israel became the "melo-hagoyim" . In Romans 11 it says that Paul did not want us to be ignorant of the mystery but a partial hardening has come to Israel until the until the fullnesss of the nations comes in thus all Israel will be saved. Melo Hagoyim is the same as the pleroo ethnos. The great mystery is that we will live in shalom under King Yeshua. I met a rabbi in Israel who said to me, "he's coming back there" pointing to Mount of Olives. Zechariah 14. I said to him, "They will look upon him who they pierced and weep as one weeps for an only begotten Son" Zechariah 12:10. He said "exactly" There are secret believing Jews in Jerusalem in one yeshiva. . There is much more but I will leave it hear for now. Thanks for this video!
Thank you so much for this interview with Rabbi/Pastor Cahn. The questions you asked were very insightful. As I listen to you and read your beautifully crafted essays, your struggle reconciling your Judaism with Yeshua also being God has been interesting (I wish I had a better word than interesting) to observe. My heart keeps seeing that you are so close to understanding the connections and I pray for you regularly. I am a Christian who has always had a strong affinity for Israel and the Jewish people and culture. From a very young age I have been drawn to books that teach me more about this. After listening to this interview, I believe the reason is that this is truly a soul connection. God grafted us Gentiles into His Jewish family and through that grafting, we are one. How amazing and beautiful is that?!
Thank you for all the tireless work you do on so many fronts. Your readings of the Old Testament are wonderful. I especially enjoy hearing the accurate pronunciations of persons and places.
Many blessings upon you and those you love.
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I hope this helps with those of you who don’t think we are in the birth pains of end times
A one world government is arising.
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